Is The 4 Percent Group Worth It? – A Comparison
So is the 4 Percent Group worth it? That is a good question. In this article, I will show you a comparison between The 4 Percent Group and Wealthy Affiliate (click here for a Wealthy Affiliate review) and let you decide which one has the better value for money. I will show you what each one has to offer. So please read on and enjoy. I am a member of both platforms and have been evaluating them side by side.
Who Are The Owners?
The Four Percent Group
The Four Percent Group is owned and run by Vick Strizheus. He started in Life Insurance sales in 2003 and then moved into Internet Marketing around 2005.
He has started multiple IM platforms in the past such as the 7 Figure Marketing School (website is down), Global Success Club (domain is available for purchase at $2195), Big Idea Mastermind (website is down), High Traffic Academy (still running), Vick Strizheus (still running) and The Four Percent Group (still running).
He is a well known IM promoter on the internet and there is a lot of information, good and bad, about him. Just Google his name.
Wealthy Affiliate
Wealthy Affiliate is run and owned by a partnership between Kyle Loudoun and Carson Lim. They are both well known online Entrepreneurs and have a good reputation on the Internet. They started Wealthy Affiliate in 2005 and have been growing since to become one of the biggest online IM platforms on the Internet. They have over 850 000 members and it is growing bigger every day.
They also own and run Street Articles (a publishing house) and Jaaxy.com (a keyword research tool, website analytics, and data mining software package). Both are run successfully.
What Do They Offer?
The Four Percent Group
The Four Percent Group offers a complete premade online Internet Marketing system. You will get a premade website and premade sales funnels for a system that is connected to other companies that they are affiliated with, like Tecademics (an academic platform that teaches IM and costs $100/ month and their products cost up to $12,000 each).
This is how it works. You join The Four Percent Group for $247/month (currently discounted to $49/month for a short period of time). Then you have to join a bunch of other sites like Click Bank, Get Response, Click Funnels, and NameCheap to name a few, and buy a domain all for another total cost of around $130/month on top of the $49/month membership fee. So right off the get go you are already paying close to $200/month before you have even started.
You now have to purchase the products around which the sales funnels are created. For example, if you use the Tecademics sales funnel, you will need to purchase the $12,000 product before you can earn a commission from any sales of that product. This applies to all of the premade sales funnels that they give you. Once you have purchased the products then you can sell them and earn a good commission (around 40%).
So to get set up with the program and use the Tecademics sales funnel, it will cost you around $12,200 just to start.
So this is how it works for each of the premade sales funnels that are made for you that are attached to various companies that The Four Percent Group has affiliated its self with.
You can also earn a 50% commission for referring new members to The Four Percent Group and they will teach you how to drive traffic. There are other products inside the group that you can earn commissions on as well. They tell you to follow the steps exactly as they say and do
They tell you to follow the steps exactly as they say and do NOT ask any questions, just do as you are told or else you will fail. This is repeated throughout the setup. They stress simplicity and if you follow the step-by-step videos it really is easy to follow.
One of the big downsides I see with this course is that you are competing with all the other members for the same products. mmm … that could get ugly!
And that is pretty much it in a nutshell so to speak. You do not really get taught anything really useful should you leave them. If you leave them you still do not know how to set up a website, create a sales funnel, how to approach a company to become an affiliate, etc. So you will be back to square one.
There is not much available in the member’s dashboard as yet, a few training classes, some sales funnels, and some other information. The other strange thing is that their online store is completely out of stock on everything, including PDF’s. How can you be out of stock on a downloadable PDF file I do not know, that is really weird.
Another thing is the 100K program. This is where you get to watch over Vick’s shoulder and watch him start as a free member and try to reach 100k in 90 days. The big thing that he keeps saying throughout the courses is that there is NO guarantee that you will make any money at all following any one of their systems.
Wealthy Affiliate
Wealthy Affiliate is an all inclusive e-learning platform that teaches Internet Marketing. It is a like an online university for Internet Marketing.
They teach you everything you need to know about becoming an internet marketing specialist from setting up your website, SEO optimization, e-mail marketing, how to build your own sales funnels, video marketing, Keyword researching, Social Media marketing, how to write content, local marketing, PPC (Pay Per Click), affiliate marketing, e-commerce, just to name a few. They also teach you how to use WordPress, the most widely used website development software on the current market.
They will guide you step-by-step from the very beginning all the way to the end so that if you should leave Wealthy Affiliate you will have all the skills and knowledge to continue on your own.
On top of all this they also offer very high end hosting for up to 50 websites (25 free sub domain sites and 25 domain sites), SSL Security, Site Speed (makes your site very fast), built-in Spam protection, 24/7 live support, a great community and live chatroom that answers all your questions you might have and you get to talk with the owners directly on a daily basis if you have any questions.
The member’s area is full of information, classes, free tools, live active blogs and questions and is well laid out and easy to navigate and all of their training is up to date. I have to admit that the support and community, in my opinion, is second to none on the internet.
The other nice thing about them is that you get to choose any idea you want for your own website which you get to control and maintain. You can create an online business in any area that you can think of. You are not in competition with the other members at all, which is a good thing.
There is also a WA referral program that pays almost 50% percent commission. They also have a step-by-step program that will teach you how to market WA and they provide all your advertisement material.
Now you get all of this and more for a $49 per monthly or $359 per year with NO upsells, none, zip, zilch! The only other cost is the price of your domain, should you want to buy one, is only around $15 per year and you get all the hosting and web security to go with it. That is it. You do NOT have to buy any products to sell. I mean you can if you want to, nothing wrong with that.
Conclusion
My conclusion is that if you have the money and want a premade system then The 4 Percent Group may be for you. Does the system work? I do not know. They do have a lot of testimonials that say it does. Do I think it has value for the price, then no in my opinion. I think the price is too high for what they actually teach.
Wealthy Affiliate teaches far more and offers more variety and has more options available to make an income off of the internet. Plus the community and all the support are worth more than the monthly fee to me. Does the system work? Yes, it has for me and I am earning a monthly income from it. And there are years of testimonials that say it does. That is a winner in my book.
If you any questions or comments then please feel free to leave them below, good or bad, I will gladly respond to you. Thank you for reading this article and I hope you found it useful.
Philip
February 2, 2018 @ 8:21 am
Hi Carl,
I signed up to the 4 Percent Group about 9 months ago! I did not pay any money thank God, however, I did waste about four or five hours of my life listening to that man drone on and on as he continuously hinted at buying these done for you automated packages.
Would you like to know what got me suspicious of this man?
Well, I am somewhat of an amature body reader – nothing special – I kinda just know when there is deception in someones language or body behavior that is out of the normal pattern when I know what they are saying is truthful.
OK, every now and again, the subject matter of money would come up regarding signing up to his packages. However, very interestingly enough, I noticed something way OFF with this guy everytime he broached this subject matter.
Usually, he’d stand straight open palmed, voice certain and swift with his words. Thats him truthful. Money – when he mentions money, his eyes widen slightly, his head would lower slightly, his voice got just a little shallow and he’d almost be to eager to look away from the camera as though he were all of a sudden uncomfortable.
NAHHH! Somethings up with this guy I thought. I Googled him.
Apparently, he got prosecuted and jailed for fiddling his affiliates links to take their high earning commissions.
LOL! I left and found WA soon after.
I do not recommend this guys – hopefully his changed his ways and every one deserves a second chance, but, that put me way off of him so I left for good.
Thank you for this incredible review and yes I do vouch for WA as they tell you straight the set price for your own online business with no nasty surprises you have to worry about.
Regards,
Philip.
Carl
February 2, 2018 @ 3:44 pm
Hi Philip and great to have u stop by. Yes, I also believe in second chances so we can only hope that he has changed his ways. That is so interesting about the body language. I have never been any good at it, lol. Are they a scam? Well, I still cannot say but the price tag for all those made for you automated funnels was too much for me. Another thing about it is that everyone who joins them markets the same products, so everyone is in direct competition with u right from the get-go not to mention the other independent online entrepreneurs that are in the same market. That makes some tough odds to go against right from the beginning to try and make a go of it. Anyways I did not pay them and found WA instead and have not looked back since. Thanks for responding and I wish u great success in all that u do.
Carl
Nancy B.
May 10, 2017 @ 6:27 pm
I have looked at the 4 Percent Group, but was immediately put off by the high costs. I also did a little Googling on Vick Strizheus and he seems a little sketchy. I was particularly put off by the fact that he was jailed for swindling money from users on one of his other internet platforms. I’m not sure that the 4 Percent Group is any better.
I like the idea of Wealthy Affiliate where they teach you how to be self-sufficient. In my opinion, this is the way to go – knowledge you can take with you if you decide to strike out on your own. I am not fond of systems that don’t teach you anything.
Your review seems pretty thorough, but I didn’t see you mention any downsides to Wealthy Affiliate?
Carl
May 10, 2017 @ 8:18 pm
Hi Nancy
Thank you for taking the time to read my review. I agree that there are some shady things about Vick from the past, but maybe he is turning around, I do not know, but I hope so. Time will tell. I agree with u absolutely that having the knowledge it better than just following someone blindly along with no understanding of what is actually involves. Downsides to Wealthy affiliate … mmm … I guess I am not happy with how some of the members go about writing their reviews of other platforms but at the same time it does not impact me personally or my business, I just do not agree with what some of them do. This could be true for a lot of different platforms that are out there. I honestly cannot think of any other bad things about Wealthy Affiliate. I have not come across anything yet that I think could be improved on. The teach what they preach, the support for me has been outstanding and the training is current and easy to follow and understand and they offer great services and a bunch of free stuff for u to utilize. If I do come across a negative aspect I will be sure to post it here for everyone to read. Otherwise thanks very much for visiting my site and I wish u great success in all that u do.
regards
carl
Moon
May 9, 2017 @ 2:59 am
This is a very detailed comparison between two very prominent internet marketing companies. I have heard of the 4 percent group but was hesitant to join because of the high cost. On the other hand, I signed up with Wealthy Affiliate immediately because of the free membership and have gone on with the premium as this is such a good learning platform. I will definitely forgo 4 percent from now onwards, thanks for the information.
Carl
May 10, 2017 @ 3:07 pm
Hi Moon
Yes, the 4% group says that they have a free membership, but you have to join the other companies and pay their fees and monthly dues to be able to do anything within the group and they are needed so that u can at least get commissions from referring new members to the group. WA have a truly free program that is free for as long as u want. A much better option for sure. Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to read my article, I truly appreciate it and I wish u well.
carl